Welcome to Momentum, a motorsports podcast powered by High Gear Success. I'm your host, Heather Wilson Schiltz. Here we share the stories and strategies that keep the world of motorsports moving forward. And today I have Cory Texter, a two-time American Flat Track Production Twins Champion and a four-time X Games competitor. He's also a race promoter and a podcast host. And we're even featuring matching shirts today because I thought it'd be cool to wear Cory's podcast shirt and he did too, so. We're twinning today. Yeah, that's really funny actually. ah So I knew that you and your family were obviously big into racing, but I just learned that your family also owned a Harley Davidson dealership back in the day. So did you work there growing up or were you just kind of around it growing up? I mean, I would use the term work very loose. uh I mean, I kind of ran around, like I grew up in the Harley shop, like my dad was the owner and before him, my grandpa was the owner. So I literally grew up in a baby carrier at that Harley shop. yeah, I I worked a little bit as I got older. um Unfortunately, my dad passed away when I was, I think 21 years old. So I didn't... I didn't get a long career of working at the Harley shop, but I was, what was I doing when he, I was a service writer. So I would write like service work orders. People would come in with their bikes and I was a service writer, but I also did parts and accessories. I did eBay sales. My favorite job was honestly probably just washing motorcycles. Like I didn't have to talk to anybody. I can put my headphones and I had a CD player back then people listening, you know? So I had a Walkman or CD player and And yeah, I would just like grind it out and wash bikes. I kept getting upgraded up through the ranks. I'm like, I don't want to do that. I just want to wash bikes. But yeah, so I did grow up at the Harley shop and I'd probably be, if my dad never passed away, my career might've gone very, very differently. I probably still, still be there. Yeah, grew up in a dealership family as well. So my parents own a KTM and Husqvarna dealership here in Ohio and it's actually in its 48th year of the dealership. never formally worked in the dealership, but when I was like younger, like honestly, probably when I was 10, I was better at doing things than I am now in there. Like I could check people out of the cash register. I could look stuff up on the computer. Now if I go in there to hang out, I'm like sitting behind the counter. customers will come in and they'll start to ask me a question. like, I'm really sorry. I actually don't work here. Just, just hanging out. I can't answer any of your questions unless it's like, you know, answering the phone to say what time we open and close. That's, that's about it. So. Yeah, I was about the same program. Yeah, but a lot of good memories growing up, hanging out in the dealership, getting to know all the customers that become like family. I'm sure that applied there as well. yeah, I still see. mean, honestly, that's my dad passed away. It's been 15 years. So that's like a whole different life ago. Like I forgot that part of my life even existed, like the Harley shop life and going to dealer meetings and you know, Willie G. Davidson and Nancy would come to our Harley shop every year to have dinner like we'd all get together and my grandpa rode Harleys with Willie G. Davidson. So It's that part of my life is so it's so long ago. I truly forget that some of that even happened. But then I'll see people out and about and that I met at the Harley shop and like, wow, Cory, right? I'm like, yeah. So it's it's been a while. I think everything kind of happens for a reason. um You know, part of me always wonders what part of my life would have been like if I was able to kind of stay in that part of the industry. But um I don't think the opportunity I don't think I would have been able to. reach the level of success in other areas if I was stuck inside a dealership all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody always asks me if I'm going to take over the dealership and you know, it was a consideration and a thought, but since owning my own business too, and I'm sure you can appreciate this as well doing what you do. Like there's a lot of freedom and flexibility and not being tied to retail, not having to be in a physical building during set days and hours. I, and the amount of overhead too with. a double it's a double edged sword like a part of me. I always said I work really hard. So I never have to work like that was my joke when I like being self employed and doing my own endeavors. But with that being said, I mean, I'm always on my phone. I'm always taking calls like I sometimes I want a nine to five job where I can just go in work punch out and then just wait like the weekends don't mean anything to me anymore because like I don't I'm always working on it, Sundays, Saturdays, it doesn't, holidays, doesn't really, you know, it kind of all blends together. It's a take and give. Like I long for a real job and you know, some days it just depends how it's going. I get that. I get that for sure. So you're not doing much flat track racing now, but you are big in promoting events. You have the Mission Foods CTR Flat Track Series, which is an AMA championship, an AMA major championship series. So can you tell us a little bit about that series and how many events you're hosting this year? Yeah, so I retired from pro racing in 2022. And then since I retired, I've I raced like the following year I raced a little bit. I did a bunch of like one off races and did really well. And then I blew my knee out at the end of 2023 had surgery in 2024. And it's taken so long, like I had a major major knee surgery. And then slowly starting to get better with my knee and then I broke my wrist twice this off season. So I really, haven't been riding much of anything at all. um I still do a lot of training and coaching and things like that. But uh yeah, I do. I haven't ridden like it's crazy. I talk a lot of smack to all the kids I coach and then I'm like, dude, I don't even know. Like I haven't ridden. I haven't ridden in so long. um You know, I play around a little bit on Cruise's bikes, but so yeah, I mean my uh My endeavor right now, my big thing this year was the Mission Foods CTR Flat Track series. um Mission Foods, a really, really cool partner, really cool sponsor of our series, but they've also been friends of mine for a few years now. They were a sponsor of mine when I was racing in the production twins class, and they've helped me out with a bunch of different things that I've done over the years. uh Mr. Gonzalez from Mission Foods is a former flat track racer. And it's really cool that they help out our series, but we have, yeah, it's a 10, 10 race, five event series. So we have five double header events and it's mainly East coast based. It's a, have two in Ohio, one in Florida, one in South Carolina, and then we have one in Illinois, which is Midwest. But it's been really good. Yeah. We, it's an AMA major championship series. have five brands of manufacturer contingency, which is in Flat Track, you don't really have that. So to have five brands offering contingency, we have live streaming. uh I mean, we're doing a lot of different things for amateur Flat Track, trying to grow it to get it to the level of, know, motocross, hare scrambles, road racing, ah all those other disciplines are kind of advancing through the ranks. ah And improving and flat track has been so stagnant for so long, especially at the amateur level. It's like, guys, we need to, we need to step up our program at the amateur level. If we're going to give these kids opportunities for when they turn pro. So that was my whole idea behind it. And, um, my son Cruise races, and honestly, I just want to give, give him good events to race at as well. Um, you know, we were going to all these flat track events and I was just so disappointed with like the program and how long it takes and the lack of coverage and. Just a lot of things and instead of, you know, just complaining about it. Um, I thought I'd go be proactive and promote my own own series. I started promoting a couple of races and now it's a full blown AMA major championship series. It's the only one in the AMA for amateur flat track So, um, it's been, it's been a big job, this year. it's. Yeah. Can you talk about what goes into organizing the races? Like I'm sure you maybe had somewhat of an idea, but then once you got in to do it yourself, like you really discovered everything and it goes into it. So can you kind of give people a peek behind the scenes? Yeah, I mean, for me, like I put everything I have into it, just like I did when I was racing. Like I didn't, when I was racing, I did everything I could to be a winner and win and win championships from the training to the watching film, talking to sponsors. I anything I did was benefitted. Like my whole life has been, it benefitted me as a racer. And that's kind of how I live my life as a promoter too, man. I sit down, we. We organize, you know, social media coverage videos, um, and then the event stuff itself, like ordering, ordering, um, scheduling the ambulance, um, buying the insurance, finding the racetracks, doing the coverage, just every everything it's, you know, we have a, I have a good team, but it's also like, I do a lot. I do a lot. Um, you know, so, uh, I mean, I could do a three hour podcast on what it takes to promote a high level of then just. like we live stream on fanschoice.tv. So all the live streaming meetings and then all the meetings I have with each track that we go and rent, the meetings I have with the ambulance and the EMT staff, the meetings I have with my own crew, ordering the trophies. I mean, I order porta potties. I do all that. So, ah but like I said, I have a team of people that helped me out, mainly my family, like my sister, Shayna, she came on this year as a race director and. One of my best friends, Ryan Connelly, he's my referee. One of my other best friends, Robby Bobby Mclendon is my tech director. My mom and my other sister, they do registration. So it's a huge, it's like a squad effort. Like we just have the, have the boys that come out, Ryan and Dylan Duchelander, they do all my operations and signage. ah once we get there, I have a lot of help, but during the week it's, it's yeah, it's, I mean, I'm always doing something relating to, you know, I, I update my own website. I do all that. um Yeah, I do a lot of things that people were surprised. Like, I didn't think you'd be the one doing this. It's like, I do. I've learned how to do everything. um And then I hire people on race weekends to kind of do that part of it. But during the week, it's pretty much me. And it's a lot of different work and jobs and things like that. How do you determine which facilities that you wanted to host races at? Yeah, that's a good question. Scheduling is big in motorsports in general. Like you see it, like, why do they go here? Why don't, why don't you go there? Like so many fans live, live on pipe dreams. It's like, dude, you need to race here. It's like, okay, well, the rent is 20 grand or that time of the year, it's always raining, you know, or there's so many very, the grandstands are, you know, not good or the track. Sometimes the facility is good, but the track's not good. So there's a lot that goes into it. um What part of the country I like? I'm an East coast person. I'm Pennsylvania and we have a, it's a first year series. So really couldn't go much farther than Illinois. But I tried to be Ohio, Illinois, uh because there's a really good contingent of riders in those locations. So I try to try to go out that way. And then, yeah, just facilities and clubs who are easy to work with, who are kind of dedicated to not just like. renting the facility and saying have at it, but I like to work with these clubs. Especially the last two races we've done, they've been motorcycle clubs that host flat track races year round, and they just wanted to have a high caliber event at their facility. So they were real like dedicated and motivated and all the clubs that we work with and tracks are, you know, they love the sport as much as I do. I've worked with tracks where they just wanted a paycheck, like renting the track and we come in and there wasn't a lot of dedication from them on like, um like, you know, it's just a different, different deal. So yeah, safety, making sure the tracks are safe. Like there's a lot of tracks that I would never promote a race at because I think they're kind of sketchy. So uh just little things like that, honestly. And it might change, it might change next year. As we've learned this year, I don't like to wait to the last minute to get a schedule out. I think we got our schedule out in October, which was, we were the first one to put a schedule out. But at some point, you just gotta like, I know it sounds crazy to say, but it's like, all right, we're going here. That's what we're doing. We're not overthinking it. Sign the deal, get the schedule out so people can start planning. Yeah, I scheduling is always crazy. And a lot of times different, especially when you get into the higher level series, they don't want to necessarily compete against each other, even of different disciplines. So it's like, this series is waiting on this series to post their schedule so then they can post their schedule. And it's just like this whole cascading effect of everybody's waiting on everybody. then it's like, checkmate. It's like Tetris with race dates and yeah, there's so much that goes on. I also work for Moto America. So I tried to get all of my dates that weren't on their dates because you never know. I sometimes get called in to do different jobs for Moto America and things like that. But we had ours out before American Flat Track, so the pro series. And thankfully, Initially, none of their dates were on my date. So was super grateful for that. But then they just had a rain out two weeks ago and they rescheduled it to my next race. uh I was kind of, I was kind of bummed on that. But what do you, mean, adapt and overcome and do what we can do. And it has been a very, very rainy season because I'm based in Ohio and I mean, it has been just like raining nonstop. And now like the heat waves coming in, it's going to be like 95 for like the next week or two, which is kind of wild. Yeah, our last two events were in Ohio and it rained, it's rained off and on all weekend. So we're, grateful we even got all of our races in, but yeah, it's been. Yeah. You're, not saying anything that I haven't seen all year. It's the rain has been awful. yeah, hopefully it's can't get any worse than what we've had with the weather so far. So I'm hoping it gets better. Can you talk about the different types of track surfaces and maybe how the prep changes between those for you? Yeah, so um we go on different tracks like a clay based track, like red clay, like car racing tracks that you'll see like the sprint cars race. We have a lot of those tracks and then we have a lot of tracks that are like the horse racing tracks, like the pea gravel slash limestone sort of surfaces. And then we have like just flat straight out dirt tracks as well that we race on. But a lot of them are Either car tracks, go-kart tracks, or like the horse racing tracks. So, um, the prep mainly for the clay tracks, you pretty much just hard pack them, try to keep moisture in it. And then they'll usually groove up and you kind of race them differently where the horse tracks, like the limestone, which actually in Ohio, there's a lot of fairground tracks and things like that. Um, those tracks, you pretty much. It's like the wild, wild west. Like you just, like it, they get rough, they get deep. you just, you water and drag the surface to try to keep like knocking the ruts down. But, that's like the, the, think it's the most pure form of flat track race in the, the cushion tracks, but it's a lot more track prep. if you're like behind on schedule prepping a cushion track, it just like every three races, you have to take like a five minute like prep break. It just takes so long. I honestly, honestly, a racer, they're my favorite. As a fan, they're my favorite, but as a promoter, they're my least favorite. It's so hard to be efficient trying to prep the track and make it fair and good for everybody. Where the clay track, once the track is burnt in, you don't really do a ton of track prep besides you might like mist it with some water or things like that, but it kind of takes care of itself where the cushion tracks, man, it's a job. It's just a lot of work. Yeah, yeah for sure. It's funny how like the thing that naturally requires the most work would be like the most exciting for the racers or the fans. couldn't just be easy. No, I mean, it's kind of similar and other like, would say in moto, like Southwick is the big one. And that's a sandy like track. And it's fun to watch races there. And even, I mean, even like NASCAR, if you look at like Bristol, or like uh a really exciting, hectic, like course with a lot of crashing or you know, like it's, yeah, the most exciting ones are always the hardest. It's like, the hardest to promote the hardest to prep the hardest to keep your keep the tempers away from each other. But yeah, it's It's exciting. There's nothing like, there's nothing in the world like watching a cushion half mile in flat track motorcycle racing. um It's just the best form of racing that you can watch as a spectator. It's just amazing. Yeah. So the AMA Flat Track Grand Championship is coming up and you're involved with that a little bit as well. So what are you looking forward to with that? And, um, your son Cruise is also going to be racing there as well. Yeah, so um I have a really good relationship with the AMA and the American Motorcyclist Association, um Ken Saillant, Mike Burkeen, and all the people over there. uh You know, I've had a really, well, now I have a good relationship. When I was younger, was kind of a pain in the ass. don't know. I was hectic, but now it's funny. Now we all have, like I work with them. I actually got suspended from the AMA for rough riding when I was like a teenager. And, uh, and the guy that wrote my suspension letter is the, Ken Saillant. It's the guy I work with now all the time. So, um, so it's pretty funny. I still have the letter actually. So we joke around quite a bit. Um, but yeah, um, because of my, guess, cause my experiences with my series and what we've done with mainly like my winter throwdown event, it's just a massive event. It's we've been doing that event for seven years. Um, he brought me in. Couple years ago, and I don't know what my job was a couple years ago, but I worked way too hard. know that it was a, I forget what it was, but I was working way too hard. I'm like, bro, I don't like this. This is a lot of work. So now I'm more so, uh, I would say a consultant. Um, I've kind of helped them with the class structure and the scheduling and some of the marketing stuff and mainly track prep. Like ahead of time, I'm kind of consulting the fairgrounds crew at Du Quoin, Illinois on like the track prep and Just trying to do different things to, like I said, just grow and better the sport. just feel like flat track people are on when people see it, like my son Cruise has a pretty big following on social media. And some people will comment on there and be like, I didn't know this type of racing still existed. I'm like, wow, that's sad. So, I'm just pushing to try to anything I can do to better the sport, um, for everybody. I do it for the right reasons. trying to just give everybody a better event and better races. So the Amateur Nationals is, it's supposed to be the most iconic racing for flat track for amateurs all year long. And just a few things in the last couple of years. I mean, it's not for lack of effort. They've done a great job putting the pieces together, but um they don't do it all the time like I do. So like um I'm in the trenches doing these races all year long. I know the riders, know... You know, I still ride a little bit. guess I haven't been riding, but I'm just out of pro racing. Like it wasn't long ago I've won championships. So I'm just trying to give my experiences to, to that series, that week long event and just try to make it better. they've hired some of my staff from my events to come and work, work the race and, things like that. then in the future they've asked me if I'd be interested in. taking the whole event and uh promoting it. But ah I just don't, gotta get through this year and see where we're at. uh Yeah, it's a big ask and man, it's, I like doing all these things, but a lot of it too, like I really like just taking my son racing and being a dad. Like it's so hard when I'm promoting my own events or I'm helping all these other promoters and doing all these things, it's like, It takes away from my time, like helping my son at the track on race day. Like, thankfully his uncle, Briar Bowman and aunt Shayna. And he's got a lot of people that help him out when I'm, when I'm out working, but, um, it's hard, man. It's, it's really hard. it's good for him because, know, he knows I'll make sure that everybody has great race tracks, but, it takes away from trying to, trying to be in his pit and coaching him. And, you know, he's a champ for, still doing what he's able to do and not have his dad in his pit all weekend long. people think it's the opposite. It actually they think it helps him. But I'm like, dude, it's worse. Like I'm not able to not able to be there. And like, there's a lot of things I would change to his bike, like gearing and things like that, that I end up not doing because I just don't have time. Like when I'm there promoting or helping, I just like, ah, it's fine. Like, what I can't do it on time. So yeah, gosh, got off topic there. No, it would be a challenge to switch kind of between promoter and parent mode and to be doing both at one time just really isn't possible in most cases. So it makes perfect sense. On the uh road racing side, you are the Moto America Mini Cup manager. So last year was the first year for this series. They held the final at Road America in Wisconsin, but kind of talk about some of the talent that you saw come to this series and how that's kind of carried forward into this year. Yeah, so they've done, um they've done, they've bounced around, they've bounced around a little bit on some different things with their mini cup program. I mean, they've had, they've had some races for four or five years, but it bounced around in all these different areas of the country. And it was really hard for parents to attend a race in Washington state, and then go to a race in Alabama, and then go to a race in New Jersey. Like, it just got really hard for parents to do all of the different races around the around the country. So last year, we did kind of like a Loretta style event where we had one big event in Wisconsin at Road America. And we brought, you know, trying to bring riders from all over the country, it's feasible for parents to come to come out for one event. You know, it's, it's, it's more wallet friendly. So, yeah, it went over really well. We did live streaming, with Roger Lee Hayden was our commentator and we bring in like our, our, our, uh, our timing and scoring. We bring in a lot of marketing sponsors, Dunlop motorcycle tires comes out and supports it. Yamaha is a contingency Honda is contingency. So the event really was really successful last year and the talent that. We have in America, it's really good. mean, there's, there's really good riders that are coming up through the ranks. And I think this is going to help, like having these style events, I think in the next three, four years, you're going to see, takes time like to grow that momentum. But I think you're going to see a lot of improvement from, from the American riders in road racing. Cause it's kind of like, we have really good riders, but overseas it's like, like we're road racing in Spain and Italy. It's just like their job. They train over there for road racing, like the youth motocross kids over here train for moto and supercross. I mean, there's training facilities. They literally, that's like what they do. So it's something that we're trying to do. we want Americans eventually to do well at the world stage. Hopefully one day, it sounds so crazy, far out, but try to have an American Moto GP champion in the future. Yeah, that would be really cool. So you're also coaching Bodi Paige and the Moto America Talent Cup. So he is a racer from Australia, obviously spent a lot of time here in the US, but talk about kind of what goes into your coaching program for him. Yeah, so he actually, he pretty much lives with us. Like during the winter, he lives down in Florida with me and my wife and my sons. And then he's here now actually. We're getting ready to go out to amateur nationals. He's actually going to be going for the Horizon Award in flat track. So he's a really good flat track racer, really good road racer. I met him two years ago at amateur nationals when I was working that event that I said I worked too hard. He kept coming up. was like a 12 year old kid and he kept coming up and just talking to me. Like most kids these days are so awkward. They just walk by you. They don't, have no social skills like we did when we were younger. And I blame cell phones and know, social media. They don't know how to talk to, they don't know how to talk to people. They don't know how to talk to girls at all. Well, that's another topic, but, um, but yeah, like they didn't know. They just don't talk to you. And it was so weird that this kid kept talking to me. And he was so mature and like, I just really like, I just noticed it. and then when he gets on the track, like he was this little tiny kid riding a big 2 50 and he was riding the snot out of it. Like he just wrote it so hard and I really appreciated kind of his writing style. And yeah, then I brought him over to our last year. Yeah. Last year I brought him over in January to come live with us for a few weeks and, um It's he's now he's just like, kind of, like I said, he's, have three kids. He's one of the kids. Like I don't, he's kind of like, you know, I just, make him do his homework. I coach him. We go on runs. go to the gym and we put together this, Moto America came out with this new talent cup series. That's a really cool that they're doing. It's like a spec class for young kids. And, uh, I would, you know, I got, I got, I got offered a bike. to our, to put a program together with a motorcycle. And I said, that's my guy, Bodi's my rider. And we went out to COTA the first round during MotoGP weekend and nobody knew who this kid was. Like I was trying to get sponsors for him and nobody knew who Bodi Paige was. And he goes out and he wins COTA I'm like, I told you he's got to win. And, um, since then he's been upfront in all the races. I mean, he's been on the podium. He's fast qualified a bunch of, a bunch of rounds. So yeah, coaching him in the talent cup and, and then also doing, flat track races. this past weekend, he swept all the amateur classes at my race and, yeah, he's gearing up to compete for the most coveted award in flat track here, in two weeks or a week and a half in amateur nationals. So really well-rounded rider. yeah, my little Australian, he's, uh he, they love being in America. Like he's, he loves it here. I forget. uh foreigner. Like he's just so team of Team America and loves it. Like, just thinks everything about being here is cool. But yeah, his parents, they're still in Australia. So like for a 14 year old kid to come basically live over here and leave his family and his friends and everything he knows and the other side of the world. It's not a quick flight. No, it's, it's, it's admirable. And what he, you know, the amount of like the training he puts in and, he takes it very, very serious. And, it's been a, it's been a treat, coaching him. I, right now I just kind of do it. Like we just help out where it's not like my job. It's just something we do just to help him out. I've done it with some other kids. Uh, Evan Renshaw is another rider who won the horizon award two years ago that we coached up to win that horizon award. So. We're just out here coaching up Horizon Award, Horizon Award. Hey, that's a good claim there. Yeah, I just don't get I have all these kids, but I don't get tax breaks on them. Like I'm just like, I just have all these kids running around. So I put them to work. He takes the trash out and stuff like that. So he pays rent in other ways. And plus, it's good to like just to chime in on one more thing. It's really cool, too, that it gives Cruise somebody to ride with. That's a huge benefit as well. Like Cruise, he has a little brother, Bo, who's 15 months old. He can't ride yet. So. For Cruise, like he can kind of watch Bodi and learn from him and they can ride together and get in trouble together. But yeah, it's been good that they've, he's been able to have somebody to ride and push him as well. So that's like an added bonus having him here. Yeah, that's cool. you obviously have the tank slappin podcast where you recap a lot of flat track racing action and interview some dirt tracks, stars and stuff. Do you like organizing events more or kind of calling and analyzing races? Because I was listening to your podcast and you're really good at that too. So then if you had a preference over what you like to do more. know if we're good. It's a loose program. But yeah, I mean, I've been doing podcasting since I mean, before it was even kind of a thing. Like I was doing podcasts back in 2013. We had a show that I was doing. And I like it, but it just doesn't just doesn't pay the bills. Like, I mean, it would I podcast to make money, that's for sure. oh you're Joe Rogan or somebody like that. um I mean, I love doing the podcast. It's a hit or miss. There's good parts of it. mean, the way I do my pods is I'm really honest. um I'm upfront. I give really in-depth opinions on things. I'm fair. I give reasons why I feel that way. But with that being said, you get scrutiny for a comment or a opinions or things like that. uh which is fine. I don't mind the scrutiny, but some of the comments back, it's like, did you even listen to what I said? Like I hear when people twist, like I'll say like, oh, I didn't like, I thought they could have prepped that track better. And then they'll be like, he thinks that we suck at track prep. It's like, no, I just said, like, you could have prepped that specific track better. So it's hit or miss, but I don't, yeah, you just don't make money in it. And I have to have a job like I, you know, or I need to go get a job. Like I have a college degree, like I can go get a job, but I'm trying to make like the racing thing, my career. so I don't, I mean, I don't know what I like better. I guess they both have their pros and cons promoting and doing the podcast, but, I think podcasting wouldn't make it could make more money in flat track if the sport was bigger. I mean, in moto, like motocross like pulp pulp, MX and gypsy tales, like, they make money doing their podcasts, because they're what they're talking about is just a bigger audience. It's more, there's a lot of value for these sponsors in their numbers. And we do good numbers with tank slappin but it's not enough to where I can get a bunch of bunch of corporate sponsors. So realistically, it's like I need to grow the sport to make it bigger. So then I can have a podcast to talk about the sport that I made and you know, like I. I mean just just a small task ahead, you know to grow the whole sport and Yeah, yeah, it's just a small ask, but you could have the most awesome podcast ever about basket weaving. Like you could have the best, best ever, but nobody cares. Like nobody's going to listen. So like you have to, it has to be a topic or something that, that you want that people are interested in. Like you got to have that product. I mean, it goes back to marketing classes in college. Like you have to have that, that product first and like the flat track product. We just don't have enough people following it right now. it's like I do all this work, I do all this editing. It's like how many people are actually listening or is it making a difference? To your point, what I loved about your podcast is that you do express really strong opinions and you have really logical reasons why to back them up. I respect that a lot because I'm a PR person trained to make sure that we're saying the right things all the time. I'm a very opinionated person, but I keep a lot of that to myself because I work in this industry and I don't want to... Basically, I don't want to piss people off. I can really appreciate when people are able to express their opinions and give the reasons why. So I think that's cool. yeah, there's no shortage of that. And then like, mean, people are like, and they also they're like, why don't you say how you really feel? I'm like, that's how I really feel. Like, I don't, there's not much more to it. Like anything I say, publicly or in a podcast or in a live video or at my writers meetings, there's no more to that. Like people think there's more like, he really doesn't like this person or he really thinks that it no, I, if what I've said is what how I feel, there's nothing else. Don't overthink it either. Like I give my opinions on things, but that's it. Like there's no more to it. I don't overthink any, like, I don't sit around and stress out about things or people or situations that I can't control. I'm so busy trying to, you know, better, better what I'm doing and like bettering the people I support coach and my son that I don't, I don't overthink either. It's like, yeah, you know, I try to try to watch all the races. It's, know, I don't even really get to watch all of the events now because a lot of the times we're at the track with Cruise and they're racing in another state. And I try to tune in and watch cause like my brother-in-law, Briar, is still out there racing and just see how he's doing. But yeah, I just, I don't know. It's there's nothing more or less than what we kind of give on the, on the show. So yeah. you take the highs and lows of it. And I've had people that don't like all the opinions on our on our show, you know, and they've, they've said that I'm like, well, then there's other podcasts, you know, you can listen to that, that don't give those opinions, but I want to be different. And I really like the podcast, like Joe Rogan and Gypsy Tales and the guy at pulp MX, like the guys that really, you know, it's not, it's not a podium interview podcast. It's not a Like you can be more yourself and open. you know, people are like, Oh, it's so unprofessional how he talks in the podcast or what he said. It's like, dude, it's, it's a personal thing. Like I talk, like I'm talking with you if we're at like dinner or at the bar, like that's that, that's C-Tex. Like that's what you get when, um, you listen. So yeah, you can always turn it off too. Like, don't have to, know, mean, like they don't have to, it's like, I'm making them listen. I'm like, you don't have to listen. You can just not listen. Just turn it off. Yeah, that's awesome. Well, tell people where they can connect with you online, where to follow you on social media, how to find out about your series. Yeah. Um, any, anything on social media, Cory, texter promotions, Instagram, Facebook are the big ones there. Tank slappin And we do, we do Instagram and Facebook. and then I have, I have some personal pages, but I really don't add anybody on my Facebook unless I'm friends with you. I don't know, I need some personal things. So, um, but yeah, if the best way to get ahold of me is, on social media, sending us a message to our pages. or I think my email is on there as well. People can always email me, but ah don't call me. I some people call me that they want to like, don't call me to ask a question like what time did the gates open? I'm like, just text me. Like I can't have a 10 minute conversation to answer a question about when the gates open. So ah if I, yeah, if I answered every call about like, like small, cause then like the little Things they could read online, but they just don't read. Yeah, like, and it's like, it's honestly, uh, it's a, the, the older generation calls our generation lazy or these kids, but like the boomer generation, it's, they like, don't look up addresses. Like, like, Hey, where's the racetrack back? Can you give me directions? I'm like directions. Like, me give you like an Atlas. Like I don't just type it in your phone. Like it'll come right off on your phone. So, um, yeah, it's just, it's kind of funny, but, um, yeah, the best way to get ahold of me is on is on social media and I'm really good uh with replying. I reply to almost every single message within a day. Like I'll get back to you and answer your questions. I'm grateful, I really am grateful for all the people that support our events and support the podcast. And I might be kind of like, uh the way I, if it's a dumb question, I might just joke around with you about that, but there really are no dumb questions. Like I really, really try to help and and get everybody to our races and make them feel welcome. I, I tell at the riders meetings, I do tell all of our riders, it's like, Hey, we're not doing you a favor by promoting this race. Like, we're only able to do this because of your participation. Like you guys taking off work, the kids taking off school. Like, we're very grateful that you're coming out and racing with us. So that's one thing that with promoters it's They just try to act like they're doing everybody a favor and they need to be thankful. It's like, no, no, dude, like they don't. both. doesn't happen? Yeah, but it doesn't happen if these riders don't show up. So ah I really try to make our riders feel, feel welcome and, give them fun events to be at and something to talk about for weeks to come. So that's yeah. And my whole team's the same way. Like as long as that you treat us with like respect and you're, you're nice and courteous. My staff is like the nicest people, man. If you don't fit the vibe, that you don't pass the vibe check, you don't, you can't work for our series. Like you have to just kind of all of our guys are over like chit chatting with all the families and fist bumping. And it's like, it's almost too much. It's like, guys, we got to work too. Like we're not here just hanging out all weekend. So, but yeah, that's the best way to get ahold of us. And then our next event, um, is July 18th and 19th at Peoria Speedway in Peoria, Illinois. Um, really excited about that event. So. If anybody has any questions, you want to come watch some of the fastest amateur racers really in the world. Like we have Australians, Canadians, ah the best, best flat track riders in the world. You can come out, Peoria Speedway and check it out. Or if you are unable to attend, we live stream. can go on fanschoice.tv and you can actually watch all of our races from this year on there as well. It's really good coverage. They've been getting better at every event and uh just grateful. And thank you for. for having us on. Good luck with the podcast life. It's not easy. So it's cool that you're taking the time and the effort to do this for very little. It's very little reward back. yeah, hopefully everybody listening can subscribe and keep supporting what you're doing as well. It's really cool. Yeah, I appreciate that. feel like it's just like a really great way to connect with people too. And for me to be able to reach out online to some people that maybe I never would have talked to otherwise and then get to bring other people kind of behind the scenes and get an inside view or hear some backstories of people in the industry that are both, you know, very high level or just amateur racers or people that have been in it a long time, I think is a really cool thing to cover. So appreciate that. Yeah, it's cool to get to know people better too. You don't get to, like with posting and things like that, you just read, you read things. don't get to know people. I feel like podcasts like this, especially with video, you get to kind of see a little bit. I literally just got done at, I went on a run. And then I got on the pod, I showered, on the pod. was like, shit, I think it's video. So like, I tried to like tidy up, tidy up a little bit, put on my Sunday best, but I'm like approaching my 40s now and I got kids. it's just like. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 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